on energy issues, even immigration you have more regional difference ares. these are basically republicans and democrats going at it across the board on labor issues. rick: these laws, bob, they don't ban unions. they give people the choice whether this he want to join and pay dues or not. >> republicans say, why should a republican union member contribute to a union that will then turn around that money and elect a democrat? they say that's unfair. but, unions say, listen, if you go back a century when there were very little union presence, or no union presence the working conditions were all of full. rick: we've seen this now happen in wisconsin, in ohio. we're watching it play out now on the streets in lansing, michigan. nationally speaking, what does this mean for the president who won a second term in no small part because of the support, the financial backing of the unions? >> rick, i think it is fascinating that obama has injected himself in this battle. by and large he kept the wisconsin battle before the election really at arm's length. it frustrate